Mark2003
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I just learned that there's an actual term for what I'm feeling. In creative fields, they call it the "valley of shit"—that point in a project where the initial excitement has worn off, you're in the messy middle, and everything feels ugly and impossible. And let me tell you, I am DEEP in the valley with my data analysis. 

My data is messy. My results don't look like I expected. I keep running tests and getting confused. I've rewritten the same paragraph five times. I'm starting to think my whole dissertation is garbage and I should just drop out.
But I know (intellectually) that this is normal. Every PhD student I've talked to says they hit this point. So I'm crowdsourcing motivation tips. How do you climb out of the valley?
Here's what I'm trying:

My data is messy. My results don't look like I expected. I keep running tests and getting confused. I've rewritten the same paragraph five times. I'm starting to think my whole dissertation is garbage and I should just drop out.
But I know (intellectually) that this is normal. Every PhD student I've talked to says they hit this point. So I'm crowdsourcing motivation tips. How do you climb out of the valley?
Here's what I'm trying:
- Remind myself that "done is better than perfect." My first draft can be ugly. It just has to EXIST.
- Switch tasks for an hour. When stats make me want to cry, I switch to formatting citations or writing an easy section. Progress anywhere is still progress.
- Talk to my advisor. I've been avoiding this because I'm embarrassed, but I know they've seen this before.